Do you really keep all of these commandments? I doubt it.
The following is a response to a friend (Roger) of TTGM that made a comment regards to a post sent out by TTGM on the commandments.
Here is the post that was sent out by TTGM in August 2022.
Who is God with?
Is God with everyone that calls His name? No.
(Matthew 7:21 [KJV])
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
God is only with them that are obedient to His word (the obedient ones DO HIS WILL). To be more specific, He is only with them that keep His commandments/His will. What is His will? Easy answer, His will is what He said.
What did He say?
The word wrote via Moses’ hand.
(Deuteronomy 5:10 [KJV])
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
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The word made flesh spoke to His disciples (us).
(John 14:15 [KJV])
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
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The TRUE saints obeyed what He said (they kept His commandments).
(Revelation 14:12 [KJV])
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
All 500 plus (not just 10) of His commandments are based on love and should be kept.
(John 1:6 [KJV])
And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
It is important to note, that there was NO New Testament book when the above was written. All the saints had in the days of Christ and the Apostles was the Torah or the prophets (Old Testament). The people then were living the New Testament.
Believing in Christ means obedience to what is written. I encourage all believers to study the word for yourselves (His commandments). The pastor/priest/teacher/tv evangelist/daddy/mom will not be by your side at God’s judgment. It will only be you and you alone.
Hear a man that studied for himself. Watch Intro video.
Shared in love.
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Apologist Response to Roger
Completed by TTGM – 20.08.2022
Roger wrote (RW) in response to the above quote:
Do you really keep all of these commandments? I doubt it. (Link from Roger that accompanied this statement)
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TTGM’s Response (TR):
I am commanded to give an answer to every man. Do you keep this command?
In answer to your question, do I keep all the commandments?
Yes, my aim is to learn them and keep all to the best of my ability. Do I fail? Yes, I then ask for forgiveness and move on to do better. Thank God for His grace.
Men in history kept the commandments and were blameless. Read.
(Luke 1:6 [KJV])
And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
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Question for you.
Since we know we cannot keep all of His commandments perfectly, does this mean we should not keep them?
Tic Toc, tic toc
(YOU WILL NOTICE ROGER NEVER DIRECTLY ANSWERED TTGM’S QUESTION)
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IMPORTANT: Again, notice he does not answer TTGM’s question.
RW:
“Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing [doing/”keeping”] the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin” (Rom.3:20)
“For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it” (James 2:10).
“Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?” (Acts 15:10).
Thanks be to God for his imputed righteousness which is credited to us by faith alone in Jesus Christ apart from the works of the law (see Rom.3: 21 – chap. 4; cf. Acts 15:11).
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TR:
I will respond.. easy answer. You need to answer my question first.
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Summary Answer (this answer was not given to Roger):
Paul was addressing the thinking that people had. They believed by keeping the law, they were able to be justified before God, this is IMPOSSIBLE. We that are born in sin and shaped in iniquity cannot keep the law to be saved. So why do we keep the law? We keep the law to stay out of sin (Sin is the transgression of God’s Law – 1 John 3:4)
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“Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?” (Acts 15:10)
This verse refers to men instructing the new believers in Christ to be circumcised. Was God’s law a yoke that no one could bear? Let us look at what the word of God says. You will notice His commandments are not grievous (not burdensome).
(1John 5:3 [KJV])
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are NOT grievous.
So the question is, what is meant by being a yoke that their fathers were not able to bear? What we have is a contradiction that needs to be understood.
First, the men that gave the instructions to be circumcised were not under the apostles’ leadership. These were referred to as “certain men”. When the matter was taken to the Apostles they decided what should be done under the guidance of the Holy Ghost (these men were filled with the Holy Ghost). The matter was divinely settled by God and His word.
There were “certain men” that did not adhere to God’s word, they followed doctrines that were given by men. Yeshua (Jesus) met some of these same certain men that made up burdensome rules/doctrines that had nothing to do with the Torah (We will explain the Talmud later). This is what Yeshua said to these men. Read.
(Matt 15:9 [KJV])
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
The Apostles with the help of the Holy Ghost judged the matter of circumcision using the non-grievous Torah. The “certain men” relied on the grievous burdensome doctrines of men to judge the matter of circumcision. God has no respect for the doctrines of men.
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RW:
On top of all that the Old Mosaic law/Covenant became obsolete and has faded away with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple way back in the 1st Century, just as prophesied in the Scriptures (see Mt.5: 18; Heb.8:13)
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TR:
When are you going to answer the question?
You all Christians are real jokers. (this was written because Roger did not answer the question)
Sin is the transgression of God’s law. You tell the blind that comes to your door that they can ignore the law because of faith in Christ. So the blind, like yourself, eat your pig, work on Shabbat, marry according to the law of 1563, and enjoy your pagan days (Christmas with Santa, easter with bunny rabbits, and lent etc).
In Greek “Establish” means to continue. You have made void God’s law due to your error.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Why do you ignore God’s law/commandments? You love to please the flesh, you love your sin.
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Summary Answer (this answer was not given to Roger):
RW: On top of all that the Old Mosaic law/Covenant became obsolete and has faded away with the destruction of Jerusalem..
The Mosaic law and the old covenant are two separate and distinct applications. Let me explain. A covenant is an agreement between two or more parties. The Law of Moses/God is a grouping of commandments. The old/new covenant agreement is based on what God and what man will do (as agreed). Regards to the law fading away, I will let the word speak, you will notice the smallest part (jot/tittle) will NOT pass away.
(Matt 5:18 [KJV])
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Regards to the old covenant passing away? The old covenant was replaced by the new covenant (not the commandments, the commandments form part of the agreement). Read Relationship between the Old and New Covenant on the page.
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RW:
Since no one could have been justified by observing the law. The term “establishing the law” simply means upholding what the unkeepable, condemning law demanded, i.e. faith in Jesus Christ. As Paul said Gal.3:24 “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.”
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TR:
For your information, I am NOT trying to justify myself by God’s law as Galatians were trying to do. The only one that was able to do this (keep the law of God) was Yeshua (God), this is why He was the perfect sacrifice. I will write again, it is IMPOSSIBLE to justify oneself by keeping God’s law, it only takes one sin to be guilty of the entire law.
Why then do I keep God’s law?
A.
I do not want to live in sin.
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Summary Answer (this answer was not given to Roger):
RW: The term “establishing the law” simply means upholding what the unkeepable, condemning law demanded, i.e. faith in Jesus Christ…
Roger, you cannot give a meaning to a word that already has a meaning. The book is God’s word and should not be corrupted by your misleading words. The meaning to Establish is seen here from the Strong’s Concordance.
Establish = G2476 ἵστημι histemi (hiy’-stee-miy) v.
στάω stao (staō’) [used in certain tenses]
to stand.
{transitively or intransitively; used in various applications, literally or figuratively}
[a prolonged form of a primary stao stah’-o (of the same meaning, and used for it in certain tenses)]
KJV: abide, appoint, bring, continue, covenant, establish, hold up, lay, present, set (up), stanch, stand (by, forth, still, up)
Note to Roger:
We must not try to change God’s word into what we want it to say.
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RW:
1What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? 2For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. 3For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” 4Now to the one who works, the wages are not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, 6just as David also speaks of the blessing of the person to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
7“BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN,
AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED.
8“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” (Rom.4:1-8, NASB)
My brother I pray you’ll have that blessed assurance of sins forgiven through faith alone, in Christ alone.
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TR:
Again, I see you are a little slow in understanding.
Here I go one more time. I do not keep God’s law to be JUSTIFIED. I CAN NOT be justified by keeping God’s law. I am a sinner saved by grace, NOT the law. I am no longer under the law, I am under grace. I keep the law so as not to sin.
Let me give you an example.
Man has traffic laws. From time to time we may go over the speed limit while driving and we get hauled before the courts. This is called breaking/transgression of the law. Since we have transgressed the law does it mean we should ignore it and CONTINUE to sin/ continue to drive fast? This is the Christian doctrine, this is what the Many do. They ignore what Christ said (if you love me keep my commandments, go read what I posted first on this subject).
Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
I am dead to sin and I do my best to no longer live therein. How? By keeping all of God’s commandments. REM: Sin is the transgression of God’s law.
The Christian mindset:
They are dead to sin but they continue to live in sin IGNORING to keep the law of God.
When you do not keep the law of God, you live in sin, this is also called INIQUITY. (Iniquity is the transgression of the law/Torah – The Many transgress the law of God, they work iniquity). Read.
God hates workers of iniquity.
(Psalms 5:5 [KJV])
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
God the word said via David’s hand.
(Psalms 6:8 [KJV])
Depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity; for the LORD hath heard the voice of my weeping.
God the word made flesh said.
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Again, please do not send me anything about getting justification by keeping God’s commandments. I only keep God’s commandments to stay away from sin. Why? My Father hates sin/iniquity.
Love you and I pray you be blessed in understanding.
This paper speaks to iniquity that is done by the many.
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RW:
I wish you all the best as you try to keep all 613 of them.
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TR:
Here is understanding.
God’s commandments are..
1. All God’s commandments are based on love. Why? They all come from a God of love.
2. The commandments are in categories. Some are for priests, animals, farmers, women, kings etc. Meaning, I only need to keep the commandments that apply to me. Not all 613.. by the way, they are more than 613 commandments – Here is a more complete list of God’s commandments on our website.
3. We are blessed when we keep the commandments, and we are cursed when we do not keep them.
Deuteronomy 11:26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; 11:27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: 11:28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
REM: His word did not change, God changes not.
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Understanding sin.
All sin is hate. When we sin it is either against God, or neighbor or self.
Stay away from sin and keep God’s commandments. You will be blessed. Later.
End..
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CONCLUSION
The Many will be told to depart from His presence. The Many live after the doctrines of men and they disregard the law of God. When we do not keep the law of God, we live in sin. We do not keep the law to be saved, we are already saved by faith in Yeshua. We keep the law because we follow Him (Yeshua kept the law). If we say we are followers of Christ and do not keep His commandments we are liars and the truth is not in us. It is written.
(1John 2:4 [KJV])
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
This message is for the Few that have ears to hear.
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Understanding what is Iniquity (not keeping the commandments of God/Torah)
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