When does marriage begin between a man and a woman? PAGE 3 (Pg1,
The Forgotten Meaning?
This is the response page. See if you
can answer the questions before looking at the answers.
(all scripture taken from the KJV)
Remember the definition given for “The World” and “The
World’s Church” from Page 1:
Questions & Statements
The World’s response (general
The World’s Church response
When does marriage begin between a man and a woman?
When the two agree to get married and they set a date for
a formal ceremony. On the date of the ceremony, they will have to sign
legal documents; (legal: representing the contractual agreement). On the
date of the ceremony and only after the legal documents are signed are
This can also occur at the court with no religious
ceremony, as long as the agreement is signed by both parties; then they
When the two agree to get married, they then set a date
for a formal ceremony. And on that date of the ceremony, they will have
to sign legal documents; (legal: representing the contractual agreement).
On the date of the ceremony and only after the agreement is signed are
they considered married by most of our world churches.
Also, some of our churches may or may not recognize the
legal signing “only” and possibly treat the couple as “living in sin”,
until or after they get an official church ceremony.
If two people (man and woman) that were virgins from the
start, meet each other and decide to get married. They then both go
privately and know* each other, are they doing wrong in God’s eyes?
(without church or state involvement)
*Knowing (or to Know) is the correct rendering for two
people coming together (or becoming one flesh) as given by the Word (God)
– the word sex was given by the world with dire consequences – another
page, another story, another study for another time.
Get it on. As long as they are two consenting adults, not
a problem. In fact it can be two men going at it together (or two women).
Hey, better yet a foursome… As long as everyone is consenting and you are
not hurting anyone else, it's okay (trust me).
Sex, Intercourse all the same. To “know” someone is old fashioned
language. If you speak like that today, people will think you are off
your rocker. Have fun, life is short, enjoy it while you can.
Read: 2 Timothy
Yes, they are doing wrong in God’s eyes, It is SIN. They
are committing fornication. They are committing sexual immorality. They
need to get the official blessings of the church as well as the state's
involvement with the legal paperwork to take care of both the spiritual
and natural side of marriage.
scripture supporting the following: Should two virgins (male and female)
come together and know each other is this the SIN of fornication?
Follow up Question from answer 1.
Yes, I understand
and agree with Ezekiel 16:26
however on the second point that you made, If a man is married to a woman
in Matthew 19:9, and she commits a sexual sin (pornea),
this allows for divorce (in God’s eyes), Why then did Jesus not use the
Greek word for adultery? Noting the Greek word for adultery is completely
different than “pornea”;
as you know the word for adultery used in the selfsame chapter and verse
is μοιχάωmoichao (moy-khah'-o).
Is not adultery the same as a wife having sex with another man? Again, if
this is the case, why then did Jesus make this distinction between pornea and moichao, could
he not just say moichao and finish the response
here? Am I missing something?
Who cares, as I
said before, life is short. Live it to the fullest as we do not know how
long we have on mother earth!
Follow up Answer to question 2.
adultery and now Greek; you kidding me, who cares. Have fun life is
Read: Luke 12:19-20
Yes, In Ezekiel 16:26, the sin of
fornication is mentioned here. Also Jesus said in Matthew 19:9, that a man can put away his wife only after or
except it be for fornication (nothing else will allow for divorce). In other words if he (the
husband) is married to a woman and she commits fornication, he the man
can divorce her. The word used for fornication in Matthew is πορνείαporneia (por-nei'-ah).
Follow up Answer to question 2.
interesting, I will get back to you on this one. Will consult with
students of the Book (Bible) on this one.
We have written to twenty four ministers by email and to
date we have gotten the following answers.
Link not updated yet, as we
are still Waiting…
If a man got married to a woman and they divorced, and
should the woman marry again to another man after the divorce, is this
sin? And if it is sin, should we as believers support the wedding? Should
this wedding be blessed by the priest/pastor?
Sin? God is love. If it does not work out move on. God
forgives everything, even murder. The Bible is an outdated book. What
worked then cannot apply now as we have become modernized. Don’t mind that
marriages and the world seem to falling apart, it will get better (trust
me). We as men have the capacity to be great; we don’t need God’s help, We can make it on our own. Who is
God anyway; we have descended from monkeys and apes. So don’t worry about
standing before a God with a white beard who sits on a white throne. Come
on, drop the it. Marry, marry and, marry (if it does
not work out), just be happy. My answer.
Read: Mark 8:38
Well some of our world churches would not touch this
couple with a 10 foot pole if one or both were divorced and the previous
spouse is still alive based on what Jesus said in Matthew 19:9. In fact
when the disciples heard what the only reason for divorce was, they said
that it would be “good not to marry” -
see Matthew 19:10
On the other hand a number of other world churches would
welcome this couple with open arms no matter what the cause of divorce
It all depends on which world church you visit. It is
important to remember that we are all under grace and we will be forgiven
for all of our sins. Not saying that we divorce with the intention to sin
in marriage to someone else, in order to move on; just saying, we will be
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because
thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me:
seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy
So what is this verse saying?
Priest, Bishops, Pastors,
Teachers, Leaders and the body of Christ, who do not teach and preach the
true knowledge (commandments and the prophets) of the Book of books (the
Bible); God himself will not even remember or be mindful of their
So what should we (God’s Church)
Priest, Bishops, Pastors,
Teachers, Leaders and the body of Christ, need to preach the true
knowledge (commandments and the prophets), that they will be found worthy
(and not be rejected by God) and their children too will be remembered.
Time to present the same questions to our Lord Jesus - GO TO NEXT PAGE (4)
This article was written to share the truth of God’s Word to
the church as it relates to when marriage between a man and a woman begins.
When the church truly teaches, “it is written”, then we stand with them on
the side of Truth. It is and has been a very controversial subject for the
researcher/writer of these pages, but our Lord was not one to shun
controversy. He was not one to seek the favor of men; for Him TRUTH came
before life and for Truth he died. Are you prepared to die for the Truth?
The Greatest Love of all (John 3:16)
"For God so
loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever
believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"